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Another interesting ecophilosopher: Kirkpatrick Sale. Something about his predictions of the collapse of civilization

Publicerad 2020-12-07 19:27:00 i Anarchoprimitivism, History of ecophilosophy, Kirkpatrick Sale, The collapse of civilization,

Kirkpatrick Sale (b. 1937, he is 83 years old by now) is an anarchoprimitivist ecophilosopher and prolific author with fourteen books behind him, who is usually linked to movements like Neo-Luddism, Bioregionalism and Secessionism. In his most famous book "Human scale" (1980) he laid the foundation for his thinking, which was that humans should live in societies within human scale, in small tribes where we can control our own lives politically, economically and socially. He has spoken extensively against technology, and do not think technology will save us. He is a great admirer of the anarchoprimitivist ecophilosopher John Zerzan and his views on technology. 
Sale has described personal computers as "the devil's work" and in the past he has smashed one functioning computer. 
In 1995 he made a public bet with Kevin Kelly about industrial civilization collapsing 2020. Sale believed civilization would collapse by then, and Kelly believed technology would save us. Sale has still some time to win this bet, its date is put on 31.12.2020. Sale believes now that he was not far off in his bet. He believes that by 2030, industrial civilization will have ceased to exist, and if anybody survives this, it will be in small pockets isolated around the world, in tribes. You can listen more to his views upon these matters in this youtube interview that Hambone Littletail made with him in the end of 2019, in the Collapse Chronicles series. 
Is Sale right? I think he is not far off. 2030 is the time when export oil will be gone on the world market except for China and India, when China and India will consume all export oil. Without oil, the oil importing nations will collapse completely, and with them, the whole industrial civilization. These are old predictions, but unless we discover very big quantities of new oil, we better listen to them, they are not far off. I believe we can maybe add a few years to these predictions, not more. Then we have 2035 at most, when the export oil is gone. 2030-2035 it's gone. My own bet is the year 2035 for the complete cessation of industrial civilization. I have written about it before on this blog, in Swedish, here. I would say that industrial civilization could collapse already in the end of 2022, it probably will 2035, and at the very latest, it will collapse around 2050. So in other words, in my lifetime.
This article states that 9 % of British people believe that civilization will collapse before 2030. Among them is the famous British professor Jem Bendell


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Lars Larsen

Born 1984 in Finland, Norwegian, lives in Österbybruk, Sweden, poet, ecotheologian and ecophilosopher (though not an academic such), is also called "The monk" ("munken", he is monk in a self-founded monastery order, "Den Heliga Naturens Orden", "The Order of the Holy Nature"), he calls himself "Forest Man Snailson" (Skogsmannen Snigelson) because of certain strong ties to Nature and the animals, founded among other things through many years of homelessness living in tent, cot, cave and several huts in the Flaten Nature Reserve and the Nacka Reserve outside of Stockholm. He debuted as a poet in 2007 with "Över floden mig" ("Across the river of me"), published by himself, he has also published an ecotheological work, "Djurisk teologi. Paradisets återkomst" (Animalistic theology. The return of paradise") on Titel förlag 2010. He has published the poem collection "Naturens återkomst" (The return of Nature) on Fri Press förlag 2018 together with Titti Spaltro, his ex-girlfriend. Lars' professions are two, cleaner and painter (buildings). Before he was homeless, but right now he lives in Österby boende, a group home for mental patients 45 km northeast of Uppsala. His adress is: Harviksvägen 6A, 74830 Österbybruk, Sverige. One can reach him in the comments section on this blog. His texts on this blog are without copyright, belonging to "Public Domain".

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